The Problem with Kickstarters...

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The Eve Spectrum has been a hotly anticipated monitor for well over a year now- and FINALLY we've got our hands on one (the 4K, 144hz version. But is it still exciting after all this time?
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chrcoluk Vor 4 Tage
and to think I almost pre ordered one of these a month ago before someone warned me of their previous problems.
doire aintu
doire aintu Vor 4 Tage
“WE’RE GOING TO DISRUPT THE INDUSTRY” “(Hey LG can we haz panels)” Scamstarter just be scamming every day.
FollowCondex Vor 5 Tage
@linus tech tips video suggestion: review full comparison of the XIAOMI MI CURVED 32 UW with g7 g9 etc
Drazen Graves
Drazen Graves Vor 5 Tage
Send a terrible "pre production" unit to a youtuber to review.... Great idea!
chrcoluk Vor 4 Tage
linus end comment says it all I think, they must be desperate for more funds so sent it out for the publicity.
Drazen Graves
Drazen Graves Vor 5 Tage
So a terrible screen,got it
wnnalis cioov
wnnalis cioov Vor 5 Tage
I’ve heard that line before “Lets talk about that”
doire aintu
doire aintu Vor 4 Tage
“WE’RE GOING TO DISRUPT THE INDUSTRY” “(Hey LG can we haz panels)” Scamstarter just be scamming every day.
C W Vor 6 Tage
I’ve been burned twice by Kickstarter. It’s usually three strikes you’re out but I’m completely happy stopping at two.
GNU-Ish Vor 6 Tage
I like how he said January and they corrected it to January
wnnalis cioov
wnnalis cioov Vor 5 Tage
imma start a kickstarter for an adblock that works on LTT videos
spacegangsta Vor 7 Tage
Why not just buy an LG???
Pac Vor 7 Tage
Eve spectrum been doing promo for this monitor for the past 2 or 3 years and this is what they produced. Feel sorry for they people who actually pre ordered this trash.
Jayson Cowan
Jayson Cowan Vor 7 Tage
So they badly repackaged an LG.
Triplicity Damystery
Triplicity Damystery Vor 7 Tage
You'd think ill learn from hype. Pre-ordered cyber punk and eve fml.
SonarWavePulse Vor 7 Tage
All these "disruptive" companies actually prove that good old regular companies already offer products at competitive prices. Seems the only thing they can ever accomplish in price cutting is either quality cutting across the board, or abysmal quality control where you really don't know what you will get. I'll just keep buying from LG or Asus or whatever
Dibble Tiki
Dibble Tiki Vor 7 Tage
So glad I didn't preorder this. I kept seeing their Facebook ads all over my news feed every day for weeks, they almost got me.
ceerw buty
ceerw buty Vor 7 Tage
He’s really funny.
Harold Ållaberg
Harold Ållaberg Vor 7 Tage
glad i canceled my order of this ages ago
Vashtii Vor 7 Tage
I asked for my 100 dollar refund. They replied with something saying "just wait." And then when I replied with no, refund me please... they stopped replying lol.
henhen7890 Vor 8 Tage
3:30, is linus hating on DisplayPort? Is there something wrong with DisplayPort? I always thought it was superior to HDMI.
Tisser Monihen
Tisser Monihen Vor 8 Tage
My Gigabyte G32QC is pretty nice, 1440p at 165hz. HDR10 but average in brightness, 350 cd/m2. But it's good for gaming and great color reproduction.
geok1ng Vor 8 Tage
Zisworks has been selling 27" 4k panels that run 4k120hz, 1080p240hz, 720p360hz for many years. They have a kit for 39" VA panels with the same specs. Not forgetting they have Scan backlight with true blur reduction
Brantyn Vor 8 Tage
What is baffling to me is that neither company name or product are in much did that cost them?
Skatman Vor 8 Tage
They just pushed their release date back *AGAIN* ...
An Equal
An Equal Vor 8 Tage
I remember seeing their ads on Facebook since last year in January. They would originally promise it to be ready by q3 2020 lol I would get their ads literally every week because Facebook knew I was clicking on the ad and reading the comments. It always came off as too good to be true.
nick 007
nick 007 Vor 8 Tage
LG paid this dude 2 million dollars YES US DOLLARS to do 2021 CES PROMO...lucky gay
BLI Beats
BLI Beats Vor 8 Tage
imma start a kickstarter for an adblock that works on LTT videos
Niko Vor 8 Tage
I was tempted many times to pre-order this monitor. Extremely glad I didn't now.
Farhan Labib
Farhan Labib Vor 8 Tage
I was on the edge of pre ordering this. I'm so glad I didn't! 😒
MachuManOfLegends Vor 7 Tage
I dont understand the pre order mentality in the first place just to look back at it a few years later and say “meh”
Mark Arnott
Mark Arnott Vor 8 Tage
motorbike 🛵owners i seen problems with Kickstarters
Onkar Indurkar
Onkar Indurkar Vor 8 Tage
Both acer and aorus have 1440p 240hz and the aorus fi27qx has 99% argb too so those are still better than the asus and ultrawide you mentioned.
Tarun Pratap
Tarun Pratap Vor 8 Tage
Almost all kickstarters seem scammy.
Hugh Betcha
Hugh Betcha Vor 8 Tage
Why would you not mention the Alienware AW2721D in the direct competitors for 1440 240 Hz? It's the only full gsync ultimate one, too
JrInfinityGaming Vor 9 Tage
It ships February 26th btw
KingLos Vor 2 Tage
Delayed to April now. Hopefully they work out all the kinks by release
Ray14 Vor 9 Tage
3:21 what was that noise
KillaCam4sho Vor 9 Tage
What a complete and utter disaster/dumpster fire/ shit show. So glad I didn’t preorder this after the suspicious activity behind their last backed product. I know this is a preview but it isn’t looking good. I’ll just wait for the Asus PG32UQ
soiung toiue
soiung toiue Vor 8 Tage
Just went from on my wish list to off my wish list lmao.
ShamblerDK Vor 9 Tage
I really dislike monitors with external powersupplies. That wobbly foot = YIKES.
Alexander Popov
Alexander Popov Vor 9 Tage
Cyberpunk, Eve - excellent examples why you should not believe Marketing BS and you should NEVER preorder!
Englewoodplaysgames Vor 9 Tage
I seriously wish I was as smart as you lol
glenfoxh Vor 9 Tage
I have seen this issue with games also, such as those found on Paytreon and Steam too. I have gotten into supporting a few, and all of them years after are still in early development, with no real sign on being complete within my lifetime. Or the project got dropped, and is never going to be finished. Too many are just taking the money, without putting in the effort to earn it, in a far amount of time, after it was given. However there was two games I only thought bout supporting, but didn't, that actually got finished, for the most part. they are still having content added to them, but they finished games. That be, No Man's Sky. And Them's Fighting Herds. both of witch I now have, well after they both got finished. Currently, for this reason, I prefer to get a finished game, than an early WIP, that you never can tell is ever going to be made.
Andreas Nielsen
Andreas Nielsen Vor 10 Tage
No way I’m buying this
Rezwan Vor 10 Tage
i lost $1268.98 on Eve V back in Dec 2017. They never sent the device, nor the refund. Now they are doing the same thing again. I hope people do some research on "Eve V / Eve Devices" before they donate their money.
Victor Hugo
Victor Hugo Vor 11 Tage
Angus from makers muse always says : kickstarter is not a store.
Fred Vor 11 Tage
I’ve heard that line before “Lets talk about that”
Torraine Futurum
Torraine Futurum Vor 11 Tage
Linus is looking so cute these days. Monitor seems garbage but I enjoyed watching haha.
bowen voowy
bowen voowy Vor 10 Tage
Yup, it IS close to final performance. It's just gonna be garbage. Shame, as I like the design.
Perpetuousdreamer92 Vor 11 Tage
Moral of the story as seen by this Monitor and The wallpaper game. Never pre order ANYTHING
Ezequiel Young
Ezequiel Young Vor 11 Tage
And now it’s delayed until April 30th...
galkanftw Vor 11 Tage
There is an important point however.The others are already done and on sale.This kickstarter unit can be delayed until they get the parts at a lower cost.So we cannot judge any of this until they actually call their monitor a finished product and then compare the rest of the market at THAT TIME.
Scott Blasingame
Scott Blasingame Vor 11 Tage
I came very close about 6 months ago to do a pre-buy on the 240 one. Boy, am I glad I decided not to.
Malachi Odom
Malachi Odom Vor 11 Tage
I swear, when this dude has a son, he’s not gonna remember his first word, he’ll remember his first pc build
Frubeling _
Frubeling _ Vor 10 Tage
He already has two kids
lester p.
lester p. Vor 12 Tage
I got my refund on the preorder for the 4k model months ago ...and I'm happy I did.
Aran Singh
Aran Singh Vor 12 Tage
Just went from on my wish list to off my wish list lmao.
Cassie Vor 11 Tage
Display Port ROCKS its the best connector ever
undead9786 Vor 12 Tage
Never buy computer stuff on kickstarter or indiegogo. Computer stuff gets outdated as soon as you buy it. Unless you want something super niche stick to major brands.
e1337 Vor 12 Tage
Yeah didn't feel good about ordering this monitor.
TerribleFire Vor 12 Tage
What a piece of crap
Noe Korth
Noe Korth Vor 12 Tage
Glad I spent 100$ more on the 27GN950 instead of this
fl4nk Vor 12 Tage
It's more like 'Okay guys, we will never ever get this monitorr hing done as promised. Let's send garbage ones to Linus and let him roast it, so everybody cancels their order and we don't need to spend any more minute into this thing.'
8 Bit Chiptune
8 Bit Chiptune Vor 12 Tage
I am happy with my Odyssey G7 and I never buy any computer accessories from any sketchy companies because I don't want them to explode by themselves.
MrMurmandramas Vor 12 Tage
I wonder whether it was intentional not to make a segue as metaphor to the future of this start-up...
UziTube Vor 12 Tage
Hollow knight
Mateusz Wojtkiewicz
Mateusz Wojtkiewicz Vor 13 Tage
Yup, it IS close to final performance. It's just gonna be garbage. Shame, as I like the design.
djweesss Vor 13 Tage
Damn I rooting for this to come to reality but I’m definitely having my doubts now - I was super excited to get this in February. SMH
opzz xsin
opzz xsin Vor 12 Tage
IDubbbzTV Kickstarter Crap: The critically acclaimed original. LTT Kickstarter crap: The underrated reboot
Matthew Thegreat
Matthew Thegreat Vor 13 Tage
if 144hz isnt enough for you and you dont make money playing games you should get a life
Resolute Cub
Resolute Cub Vor 13 Tage
"Metal, as the kids like to say"
Frank Guy
Frank Guy Vor 13 Tage
Just got a Gigabyte M27Q on sale over the holidays for $330... 1440p, 170Hz, .5ms response time, IPS, built in KVM Pretty insane compared to what was available even just 1 year ago
Nathan Vor 13 Tage
Adam Vor 13 Tage
22 gb = 45 $ What's this joke ? more than 2 $ per gigabyte ?
Axonteer Vor 13 Tage
Display Port ROCKS its the best connector ever
Cameron Whitworth
Cameron Whitworth Vor 13 Tage
"Back in January..." Uploaded January 7
saverio vescio
saverio vescio Vor 13 Tage
Why would you want to back a shady kickstarter for a piece of tech when giant multibillionaries brand specialized in doing the same thing did not achieve the same thing in the same frame time?
Ptao Tom
Ptao Tom Vor 13 Tage
Eve is just the classic case of "Why is nobody doing this? Can't be that difficult" just to find out that, yeah, it isn't that easy and they're not up to the task. What a surprise.
DannleChannel Vor 13 Tage
If EVE can't manufacture their own panels to make this product happen at this price point and needs to source panels from LG (yes, I know many companies source panels from LG and Samsung, but most of them aren't trying to compete directly with them in the same segments either), it should be obvious that it's not that LG, Samsung, et al. aren't bothering to try to develop a comparable product, which seems to be the only thing that EVE could possibly be banking on to make their product worthwhile. That, or EVE has some innovative proprietary technology that allows them to manufacture monitors much less expensively which the others don't have access to, and that clearly isn't the case either. It's clear that the technology behind the manufacturing of these displays isn't sufficiently developed to sustain this product at this price point - the cost to manufacture displays with these capabilities is just too high no matter who you are - and EVE is therefore even less equipped to bring this product to market than any manufacturer which is more vertically integrated. They're louder and market themselves to seem cooler than LG, but they're stuck working more on LG's timeline than their own. We'll probably see LG and a few others bring a comparable product to market well before EVE launches theirs, or possibly around a similar time, at a comparable price, and with much less fanfare. Because for those other companies, this is simply what they do, and this is a logical iterative upgrade as technology marches on - and it's THEIR innovations driving the march, not EVE's. EVE shouldn't get credit for announcing that they'll DEFINITELY nail it! soon as LG's product which EVE relies on gets cheap enough to make improved products that LG would be launching anyway. And... well, it's a safe bet that on LG's version, at least most of the buttons will probably work, at least most of the time.
Ptao Tom
Ptao Tom Vor 13 Tage
As a Canadian channel, would it not be good to have disclaimer for things like ting, such as Canadian viewers Cannot use ting
Not Available
Not Available Vor 13 Tage
Remember kids, investing is gambling.
Harrison King
Harrison King Vor 13 Tage
i’ve never heard someone say ‘unfortunately’ that many times in just 13 minutes.
Ramkumar Radhakrishnan
Ramkumar Radhakrishnan Vor 13 Tage
i have that same problem on my computer its not the monitor but i get lighting effects on my desktop and i duno how to desable it
Gatewav Vor 13 Tage
i'll stick with known brands instead...
Dunamis Vor 14 Tage
I wanted to pre-order the 4k monitor, but luckily my card blocked it.
Just Some Ryuko
Just Some Ryuko Vor 14 Tage
I like how at 4:02 he just points and the pop up appears
Travis Centers
Travis Centers Vor 14 Tage
Kickstarter = A way to give Communist China your "American Dream" ideas. It really is just a dream at this point to manufacture a new idea without someone else stepping in and just making the idea. It has to be something you can patent or something that is too much trouble for them to do at a scale they would want.
Vladsnipe11 Vor 14 Tage
Eve is a total scam
Gizmojo Vor 14 Tage
Eve said that this was shipping out in February after all those delays. Um, this is not looking good for anyone who paid money and fell into the marketing hype. I hope you guys can get your money back. Heard so many unsavory things about this company.
Dom V.
Dom V. Vor 14 Tage
I wanted to get 1440/144, I got Gigabyte instead, I'm happy with that
Sp3EdStR Vor 14 Tage
Still got that segue pep!
arranmc182 Vor 14 Tage
that stand looks like a modified dell monitor stand LOL
Jovan Vor 14 Tage
Hey linus, the ui on the monitor looks kindof similar to the monitors from Prism+ , a singaporean monitor brand. Would reccomend for a video idea as its really value for money
Sid Vor 14 Tage
I wonder what will happen with LTT when Linus quits. I'm probably going to stop watching.
CottonFly Vor 14 Tage
Yikes. Absolute garbage.
C G Vor 14 Tage
As a Canadian channel, would it not be good to have disclaimer for things like ting, such as Canadian viewers Cannot use ting
Gutorov Mike
Gutorov Mike Vor 14 Tage
If you play cyberpunk on it bugs will cancel each other eventually
REDspike226 Vor 14 Tage
the atari VCS was finally shipped to some people (even know it doesn't seem remotely worth it)
Craig Turner
Craig Turner Vor 14 Tage
CykoruKun Vor 14 Tage
The thing is, EVE does not make screens, they don't manufacture them. They buy them. And you know how this product was concieved? They found out that some factory in China started producing panels for LG or someone and as it is in China you can sign a contract and buy them as well. Sure you can tweak software, make your own industrial design and such. But the thing that makes this screen a screen - the screen - stays the same. So in other words - the moment they announced this monitor, LG already was manufacturing panels for their own product that they didn't yet advertise. So the only advantage of Eve was that they announced the product before it was ready.
MrRawalex Vor 14 Tage
One life less learned long ago: Software and hardware are both actually vapor ware until delivered in a retail form. Second lesson is that technology is always moving, and today's promise is tomorrow's quaint idea from the past. Monitors are particularly a problem, because most companies don't make their own panels. So they are limited to what is out there, and cannot do any better. So at best, they will have a product that will have comparable specs to a more mainstream company's top model. High end, cutting edge stuff is just not part of the game.
sotuur aeei
sotuur aeei Vor 14 Tage
Eve: "great idea! lets send a review model to linus! im sure itll go over well.." Also Eve: On Fire "everythings fine."
Randy Verschueren
Randy Verschueren Vor 14 Tage
why are you wearing a hat inside ?
DanteGE Vor 14 Tage
Woah... I was actually interested in the 4k 144hz Spectrum... good thing I watched this video, what a massive BUMMER :'D
Sri Hazare
Sri Hazare Vor 14 Tage
idc about the monitor but which keyboard is he using? 8:07
Danny L
Danny L Vor 14 Tage
873 friends of the product creator xD
sotuur aeei
sotuur aeei Vor 14 Tage
Contrast - two things you especially need if you want to game in HDR. Here's hoping we get more VA panels this year.
Cyber Locc
Cyber Locc Vor 14 Tage
"Its 240hz" My Blades Screen is 240hz.....
Xlaxsauce Vor 14 Tage
Why isn't scalping illegal already. It'd be a great way to generate revenue by reselling their scalped things for msrp
James4555 Vor 14 Tage
And here i am watching this on my AOC24g2!😂
Dmitry Kudryashov
Dmitry Kudryashov Vor 14 Tage
I've noticed a 3DConnexion space mouse startup menu, do you guys use it in your work? or maybe there will be an episode with it?
Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer Vor 14 Tage
Oh, I know this one...they stink!
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